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The transcript is an interview with Barbara Jones and Alan Richardson as transcribed by  Microsoft Word and summarised by ChatGPT and subject to errors.

Interviewees

  • Barbara Jones (b. 1931)

  • Alan Richardson (b. 1927)
    Both grew up in Bury, mainly on Crow Lane, where their family ran a shop.


Early Life & Family Shop

  • Barbara was born in Bury Hospital; Alan was born at home on St. Paul Street.

  • Their parents bought a shop at 17–19 Crow Lane when Barbara was about 5 and Alan about 9.

  • The shop sold a wide range of goods: food (butter, potatoes, sugar, tea), beer, wine, vinegar, patent medicines, household items, and even laundry services.

  • Customers brought pots or cups to be filled (e.g., beer, vinegar, Indian brandy, peppermint essence).

  • Weighing was strict; shop weights had to be officially checked and stamped yearly.

  • Their mother managed the shop alone during the day, father helped evenings (after his council job).

  • Shop was open from early morning (~8 a.m.) to late evening (10 p.m. with off-licence).


Community & Childhood on Crow Lane

  • Very close-knit community: neighbors helped each other, children ran errands, everyone knew each other.

  • Few shops on Crow Lane itself—mainly their own and Booth’s corner shop. Larger stores (Co-op, Duckworths, Maple, Andertons) were nearby on Bridge Street.

  • A chip shop (still present today) was a popular fixture.

  • Street vendors were common: muffin men, oatcake sellers, crockery sellers, rag-and-bone men, and laundry liquid sellers.


Wartime Memories

  • World War II defined much of their childhood (ages 8–14 for Barbara).

  • Blackouts meant no bonfires at night; dances were held weekly at the school.

  • Rationing: strict allowances (e.g., 2 oz butter). Recipes from “Lord Woolton” helped families cope.

  • Their shop had many registered ration customers.

  • Evacuees from London arrived; Barbara contracted diphtheria around the same time.

  • Cavalry were stationed at “Factory Bottom” near Crow Lane, with many horses housed temporarily before being sent abroad.

  • The Drill Hall at the bottom of Crow Lane was used for army training and later community dances/folk dancing.


School Life

  • Attended St. Paul’s School, right next to their home.

  • School had sliding partitions to create a large hall, used for pantomimes, plays, concerts, and wartime dances.

  • They remembered all the teachers (Miss Astle, Miss Shaw, Miss Whittaker, Mrs. Metcalfe, Miss Cook, Miss West, Mr. Linley).

  • Hosted the town’s Festival of Song rehearsals.


Daily Life & Home

  • Most houses had outside toilets, coal fires, and ranges for cooking bread.

  • Washing was hard labor: dolly tubs, rubbing boards, boiling in coppers, and drying clothes on racks and lines in the back alleys.

  • Bread often homemade; flour was a big seller at their shop.

  • Entertainment: marbles, whip-and-top, comics, Saturday cinema (5 pence entry), and playing outside safely since few cars existed.

  • Streets were cobbled, with horse-drawn carts common for milk and haulage.


Local Characters

  • “Jacko Roots” – remembered as miserly, but later left money for education.

  • A Scottish family, the Colwells, were known for their Glaswegian accents.

  • Some quirky customers—one man used sweets to sweeten his tea due to sugar rationing.


Overall Themes

  • A self-sufficient, resilient wartime childhood shaped by rationing, strong community bonds, and simple amusements.

  • Crow Lane and its shop were central to family life, sustaining both the household and local community through difficult years.

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